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Psyloibe
 Post subject: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
New postPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:44 pm 
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I have a 1982 D50 Sport 4WD 5 speed, and have just obtained the entire running gear out of a 1987 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R. This includes engine, wiring harness, sensors, fuel pump, intercooler, plumbing, hoses, and everything that I need to swap it into my truck. I have the tools, time, and expertise necessary to pull this swap off, however I have some questions that I am unfamiliar with so I registered here in the hopes that someone would be able to direct me to more information.

I picked this all up because I heard that people have done this before. It seems logical, both are 4G54B based engines. I'm not afraid of fabrication or electrical work. My biggest concerns are with durability. My end goals are to run a reliable 200-225 WHP through the truck, and I was concerned about transmission and differential life. How much stress can the axles and transmission take before grenading? It seems likely that they will not be able to handle the increased torque, what with the original engine only rated around 105hp new. However, it could be like some vehicles I've run across and be overbuilt for the application and I could still be in the safe zone. Do any of you have any input?


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Baha
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
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The only input I can give is it sounds awesome! I hope you post lots of pictures. I can't wait to see when you start the swap.


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John
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
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Hi Psyloibe ,

Do not use the stock transmission in your turbo swap. It is the weakest link in your drive train.

The Starion/Conquest tranny is stronger to handle the power to the stock turbo engine. Acquire and swap in the Starion/Conquest transmission as well.

As you increase horsepower up to 225 whp, you may exceed the limit of the Starion/Conquest transmission.

The stock rear-end can handle all the power you are talking about.

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Psyloibe
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
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Hell, I meant to name myself Psylocyibe with a c but Typoed on the main screen who should I email about that? I just got the starion parts car home late last night and can post plenty of pictures later. I'm at work right now. Are there any ways to run the increased power but maintain 4wd? Part of the whole reason the swap appealed to me was for trail bashing, I had intended to apply appropriate tires for dirt. I know it doesn't have suspension or clearance to make crawler but it can still be an awesome sleeper as well as multipurpose.


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Psyloibe
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
New postPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:07 pm 
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Pictures of the parts car.

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the quote from my other car forum for the extraction:

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The day started out wonderfully when I dropped my cellphone into the toilet while pissing. It only went uphill from there.

Oxman and I borrowed my coworkers slammed Dually pickup and trailer to go pick up the Starion. Duallies shouldn't scrape when driven sideways out of parking lots. Onward we went towards Wine country, full of vim and vigor, eagerly looking forward to picking up my new car.

A bit too eager, the weather was warm and as it turned out Oxman felt more comfortable riding in the car sans pants

The last 20 miles of the trip or so to the dude's house were tight winding mountain road, which quite frankly was scary to drive on with a lowered dually and trailer. Finally getting to his house, we were confronted with a rutted dirt hill road, where the owner had to back our truck down the hill, flip it around, and back it back up to try to load the Starion.

It was around this time I noticed the copious quantities of black widow webs inside the Starion.

So it was on the way back home that we lost the brakes. The rears just stopped working and we kind of started locking up the front randomly. We almost plowed into a car at a stoplight and ran into the brakedown lane. We had to nurse the truck home about another 80 miles using the engine shifting to simulate braking, and we had a couple other hairy encounters.

Well it's home, motherfuckers. Suck my dick.


The scope of the D50 project changed. I originally picked it up for free from a guy that said I could have it for free if I got it running. Drove it for about 200 miles and found it had blown a head gasket on every cylinder, cracked the head, and spun a bearing. While dead in the water on parts I began going crazy on fucking with its appearance because hey, free ratty minitruck. Everyone should have one little beater they don't really give a shit about at least once in their life, this was mine. Now just as I was finishing the rebuild of the original motor the Starion fell in my lap.

Here's pics of my D50, so named the Froot Truck.

Album with everything so far: http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/ni ... t%20truck/

As it was driving:

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Pulling the engine and tranny:

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Fucking around with the dash, I painted it purple green colorshift paint and added stickers.

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John
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
New postPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:18 pm 
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hi Psylocyibe,

Thanks for the pictures and the story of getting the car home.

According to ProjectZeroG, the Starion transmission will handle about 400 hp.

Here's the link:

http://projectzerog.com/transmissions.shtml

Keep us undated on your engine swap.

John


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L.K
 Post subject: Re: 1982 D50 with Starion ESI-R Turbo swap
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hey whats going on with this thing.....update?


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